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[–]Presidential_Afro 16 points17 points ago

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I officially(?) declare this a SUPER ICY CHILL ZONE because last time I said something like this it started a big shit storm.

And yes I agree that we should stop making joke like this.

[–]gingirl 13 points14 points ago

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Yeah, not only are they not great from the TERF stuff, but stuff like "kill all men" has some inherent racism with POC murders.

[–]trimalchio 12 points13 points ago

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Yeah; there's a lot of reasons not to engage in hyperbolic violent rhetoric. It's far more effective to assert direct action that is possible and reasonable and then follow through with those actions; violent rhetoric alienates people in a myriad of ways and legitimizes violent tactics generally. And even when these things are said as part of jokes that simply helps to legitimize the infamously terrible "its just a joke" defense.

anywho; i kinda wanted to ask about something somewhat related to the subject of solanis jokes; but obviously on a totally different field and game. (and i know this breaks the cardinal rule of comparing gender/sexuality/patriarchy to race) but are solanis type jokes about "white people" also on a similar shitlist? Obviously things like "kill all white people" fall into the problems I ever so pointlessly reiterated above, but does a general hating of whiteness itself and commenting about that count? I kidna argue that whiteness is something that can be directly hated unlike men as whiteness is a specific tactic used by the ruling class to divide their subjects and sour solidarity of lightskinned people with people of color generally. but the problem of attacking whiteness itself is the perception of it being an ad hominem or cultural attack rather than an attack on the divisive policy itself.

so idk; i don't really know how I feel about that type of thing...

[–]devteslaflair??[S] 13 points14 points ago

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It's both funnier and more interesting to savagely mock what someone does, rather than things they can't control. Example: "they really believe Michael Brown deserved to get shot" vs "of course a woman like her believes that".

This line is impossible to mark definitively, but by trying to reach that standard you become a better poster. Same with the idea of only throwing rocks up when you mock someone, instead of someone who's already beaten down.

As for specifically hating whiteness, there are mixed race people who have to deal with in between stuff (like getting beat up for it) which makes it less funny. A while back I made a cracker smilie for SRS (like a literal picture of a cracker with a face), but was removed for that reason.

[–]srsly 11 points12 points ago

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I'm pretty sure you're at least a few months behind the times - anything on the high end of spermjacking already gets the axe. Definitely kill all men gets deleted fempire-wide, and generally misandry musings are also out.

[–]devteslaflair??[S] 4 points5 points ago

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Huh, I didn't know that, carry on.

[–]StudentRadical 4 points5 points ago

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Is there any reason not to make violent jokes verboten?

[–]devteslaflair??[S] 3 points4 points ago

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This is a really bad reason but because it would make me feel all truth is in the middle comfort liberal. However, that's a good idea as a personal thing.

Also note that nothing is being made verboten here, I don't want someone to not feel like they shouldn't post here because they made a bad joke like this.

[–]StudentRadical 2 points3 points ago

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This is a really bad reason but because it would make feel all truth is in the middle comfort liberal.

What do you mean? Your sentence is either literally ungrammatical or it at least appears to be so.

Also note that nothing is being made verboten here, I don't want someone to not feel like they shouldn't post here because they made a bad joke like this.

We had once huge amounts of faecal and piss jokes, which was getting kinda obnoxious as putting them everywhere is gross, but then there was a bit of backlash and people mostly stopped doing without any bans or modding. Is this what you're after, except for 'kill all men' stuff?

[–]devteslaflair??[S] 1 point2 points ago

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Is this what you're after, except for 'kill all men' stuff?

Yea, basically.

What do you mean?

a truth-is-in-the-middle comfort liberal is someone who looks at a slave revolting against an oppressor and says "well I guess they're really just the same". I don't want to be that!

[–]pushbroomFreeze Peaches Punk 0 points1 point ago

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Yeah, I agree and will not be adjusting moderating appropriately.

[–]devteslaflair??[S] 2 points3 points ago

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pushy, did you miss the part where I said that we're not adjusting moderation?

[–]pushbroomFreeze Peaches Punk 0 points1 point ago

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it was a slip of the tongue (or finger in this case), apologies.